Yojimbo: Pleasure Principle (38 posts)

Yojimbo Credits
Cinematography by Kazuo Miyagawa
Production Design by Yoshiro Muraki
Music by Masaru Sato

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Yojimbo provides a world of pleasure in the confluence of artists at their peaks- Muraki's set design is a bridge between cultures-Masaru Sato's bumptious, quirky music provides the ballet's score-Miyagawa frames and illuminates our stage and Kurosawa choreographs the ballet. Mifune walks into your mind and lodges there-unshakeable, perfect-a new icon.

What are your favorite Yojimbo scenes and why are they your favorites?

The link above is one of mine.

Yippee: What are your favorite Yojimbo scenes and why are they your favorites?

As I watched the film a few days ago for the first time in a couple of years, I found myself quite enjoying the scenes involving Inokichi, Ushitora's rather slow and round brother.

I usually don't really find this type of characterisation funny or interesting, but I think that the actor (Daisuke Katoo) plays him brilliantly. He avoids the traditional traps of making us feel either sorry for him or embarrassed about him -- Inokichi, at least to me, just feels surprisingly natural and human-like despite of his caricature-like nature. He is also a very likeable character, and while I probably wouldn't hang out with him (not that I "hang out with" anyone, to be honest), I could definitely sit down for a pint of beer with him (not that I actually ever drink beer, but you get my meaning).

Perhaps my favourite of all the Inokichi scenes is the one in which we see him first. He is told by the coffin maker about how many coffins he has made, and it takes Inokichi some time (and some fingers) to figure out whether it's good news or bad news. In fact, on some level this scene also pretty much sums up the whole movie.

As for the best joke in the film, I must say that I laughed out loud when I realised what the name "Ushitora" means. "Cow-tiger". And it's not only the meaning of the name, but also the way it sounds (at least if you are familiar with Japanese). Maybe I am allowed to switch to internet-speak here, and just say: LOL.

That's the same stuff I was going to write Vili. Yojimbo is a rather funny movie, and Ushitora scenes are always perfect in him appearing very real, without ever coming off as a cheap comical gimmick. The way Ushitora look and acts, is near brilliant in itself.

I too would say the coffin counting scene, is among the best in the comical scenes in the movie.

You guys crack me up! Thanks for reminding me of Daisuke Kato's Inokichi. I agree he's awesome. Can you believe he is Shichiroji in Seven Samurai? But, I wouldn't want to have a beer with him. He is likeable-until you see him slapping the man who lost his wife in gambling and as a cold-blooded killer hacking down the rival gang mom! Yikes. It scares me to think I might actually sit down for a beer with someone as funny and likeable and find out that they are actually crazy killers~!

Other favorite funny bits:

Mifune's "take" when the dog-with-human-hand trots by.

Mifune's look of bewildered disgust when the "musicians" and "dancing girls" "perform".

Mifune's look when he sizes up the group of criminals and gets a gander at the Giant.

The Giant with his hammer seen from above in the aborted face-off battle. (When I saw this scene on the big screen the whole audience laughed, and my friend choked diet coke through her nose).

...but killers make the best conservationist.

I just realized I said Ushitora instead of Inokichi. I always have trouble getting all the names right, if they just were giving names like bob, tom, and jack, I would do much better.

Speaking of Mifune bits, I love the one where he sticks out his tongue when he is overhearing the gang leaders plotting to kill him after he is done fighting for them.

I'd say that overall else Yojimbo is an out and out comedy or an action comedy. When I recently saw the film at the Freer Gallery in DC with Nakadai in attendance (and I will still write up the event), the audience - 25% Japanese American 75% Anglo American - laughed big time. There were persistent chuckles and at least 15 big laughs. Particularly with Inokuchi but also with the absurdity or foreshadowed absurdity of it all; The flea bin machinations and scheming of Mifune, the yelping dog eagerness of the little town officer (name?). This was a very appreciative, educated audience who were laughing for all the right reasons.

My favorite scene has to be when Mifune lures both gangs out and then watches up in the tower. What follows is a wonderful dance of fear. Funny and dark stuff.

Also love the dust bowl climax. But it is the little moments that really tickle me. The wolfish sneers of Nakadai, the scratching of Mifune... the coffer's coffin making.

I'm in Vermont and don't have internet more than once or twice a week so my presence here will be off and on. But I do want to talk and want to do the write for the whole event, though I find I need the web for reference, so hopefully I can get to the library and just sit and write for a few hours.

Gosh Ben,
Can't wait for your report. Hope you don't feel you have to do a book report. I'd just love to hear your perceptions.

Jeremy, I love Mifune sticking out his tongue, too! It's kinda saucy. And, the most, most pleasurable moment for me is, as the tension is building and the dust bowl and wind threaten to blow the images away...at the climactic faceoff, Mifune smiles and hunches his shoulders, picks up the pace of his walking. It was so serious until then, but suddenly you know Mifune knows he's gonna win. And, this is just a girl thing-but he never looked handsomer than at that moment. It's so strange that he faces off against Nakadai-who, in his kimono showing leg, has this hairless, finely-turned calf like a girl-his fringe of hair, muffler-such an Elvis/girly/evil guy!

I mentioned above that I love Mifune's look of bewildered disgust at the "dancing" girls. I was reading Teruyo Nogami's "Waiting on the Weather" last night and she mentions that Shintaro Katsu took everyone out for steak dinner at a geisha joint (when he was slated to play the lead in "Kagemusha") and when a geisha came in close to Kurosawa to pour the sake Kurosawa recoiled with a look of horror and everyone laughed. It made me think that when Kurosawa said to look for him in his films, he wasn't kidding.

I've been holding back because I still haven't rewatched it, but the scenes that stick in my memory are certainly the one where Mifune makes short work of the thugs and cuts off an arm (I love the stiff and precise way he chops), of course the dog with a hand in its mouth. Also the first appearance of Nakadai (Even the winds welcome you is a line that comes to mind, though it may not be in the movie). But the climax may be best of all. It might be interesting to compare it, and indeed the other set pieces, with those in Leone's version. And last of all - Mifune's mannerisms are unforgettable, like the aforementioned sticking out of the tongue and the scratching (or is that more a feature of Sanjuro)?

Jon, it seems as if your memories are right on. Mifune scratches right up thorugh the neckline of his kimono in the beginning of the film, and yes, "Even the winds welcome you" is in the movie. Great scenes!

Thanks, cocoskyavitch. Glad to see my memory isn't too fuzzy. I'm looking forward to watching it again.

Hi Jon,
You can do a You-tube compare and contrast and see Yojimbo and Clint doing the same scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t31HJGEbw2Q

Of course, Kurosawa invents, and then it is copied, and that's ok-it is copied cleverly, and there's pleasure in seeing it. But, Kurosawa invents the icon, and that's significant.

Also the first appearance of Nakadai

To be honest, I don't actually really like Nakadai's performance in Yojimbo. Every time I watch the film, I somehow find his character increasingly more alienated and alienating from the rest of the movie. Yes, it probably was Kurosawa's intention as well considering his character and the gun that he is symbolised by, but I can't help but feel uncomfortable (in a bad way) by every scene that he is in.

I must stress, though, that I have nothing against Nakadai as an actor. His performance in Ran is perhaps my favourite by anyone in any movie. He is great elsewhere as well. But what he does in Yojimbo just seems so... out of place?

I agree Vili, Nakadai's character does seem out of place. It's something I been trying to figure out myself.

I think it's a mean of separating Unosuke from the typical gang member, much like what is done with Sanjuro (The Sanjuro in Yojimbo).
Where the separation from the typical gang member for Sanjuro is a means to help the audience connect with him. The separation for Unosuke is a means to avoid a connection, while not labeling him as a fake.
As fake I mean how the gang members in the movie are faking their skill, by the way they dress and act in a attempt to appear mean. Why Unosuke and Yojimbo are very approachable and dont appear mean, but are actually the ones that are dangerous.

I will be exploring this in my write up, I should have out by Sunday. I hope you'll give your take, as I will provide some better details and examples.

I'm looking forward to that, Jeremy!

Vili,
I am trying hard to see what you see in Nakadai's character/performance in Yojimbo, and the source of your objection. You don't like it for real?

Nakadai comes in, with the wind, with that scarf and the gun coming up from his kimono-a sexual threat-and, it's easy to believe that Kurosawa told Nakadai to act "like a snake"-to Mifune's "lion".

And, later, Nakadai's kimono whipping aside to reveal his bared leg (notice the other guys generally wear leggings of some sort...Mifune does, but Nakadai's shapely, hairless, bare leg...it reminds me of the leg of "cupid" in "Venus, Cupid, Folly and Time" in that Bronzino painting in the National Gallery in London...exceptionally NAKED) again, a kind of sexuality that's snaky, sinuous. Nakadai is handsome, too. Handsome in a youthful, lawless, nihilistic way. Kurosawa said he was sick of Yakuza. I think he meant it, and Nakadai is Yakuza that Kurosawa didn't allow himself to fall in love with (unlike Mifune in Drunken Angel).

I also think the conventional reading of Mifune's character Sanjuro is boring- reading it as a primarily mercenary or nihilist character. I say baloney.

Perhaps it is that Nakadai is too beautiful, his garments too fancy for the town. He is too clever, too, instantly knowing what Mifune is planning. And that smile, for some reason, annoys me as well.

I just feel uncomfortable with him (or his character) in the movie, which may well be exactly what Kurrosawa intended, but I feel so uncomfortable with him that it actually bothers me and distances me from the film, rather than adding something to it.

It's actually quite strange. I just rewatched the movie yesterday, and there he was again. Annoying me. Or at least making me uncomfortable.

In any case, I totally agree with you about Mifune's character. I've been meaning to post on the whole "anti-hero" issue in this film, but paid work gets on the way of doing things that I would really like to do.

Maybe I'll stay up tonight and finish the two or three write-ups I've been meaning to post ever since the beginning of this month.

It will be interesting to hear you dissect your feelings, Vili. I agree that Nakadai is repellent...I have to believe that Kurosawa had more control over his attitude toward the "bad guys".

but, he's got an Elvis thing going on, too. Also the crazy-eyes thing. And the smile. And that leg. And the kimono skinny arm gun thing. He's got all these "tells", too.

But, once you've sorted out your discomfort, you'll let us know. Looking forward to it!

Interesting thoughts, Vili. Personally I don't feel in any way distanced by Nakadai in this film - he plays the part of a repellent character well and that's it for me. I think I see what you're getting at, but I can't think of a single example of finding a film spoiled (even somewhat) by an actor I otherwise admire unless they are miscast. I don't think Nakadai is miscast in this and of course that isn't what you are suggesting. Are you able to make a distinction between the actor and the character when it comes to putting your finger on what annoys you?

Are you able to make a distinction between the actor and the character when it comes to putting your finger on what annoys you?

That is a good question. I think that it's the character, for I don't really have anything against Nakadai as an actor. Or at least he does a very fine job in annoying me.

It's a strange thing, though. I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that Yojimbo was one of the first Kurosawa films I ever saw, and I was really quite young back then (12, I think?), and was most probably really pushing for Sanjuro to beat up everyone.

Maybe Nakadai's character seemed like a difficult obstacle for me then (as I probably associated myself very strongly with Mifune's character), and I therefore developed a deep dislike towards the gun-slinger. I don't know.

Perhaps I should seek help, find a Freudian to plunge deep into my subconscious and pull out the fact that, ultimately, it all has to do with my latent sexual depression? A gun is, after all, a very phallic symbol...

Hm. Maybe it's actually better that I hold off finishing those write-ups for yet another evening. Who knows where I might end up with them, considering that today my mind seems to travel somewhat too freely...

I think that it's the character, for I don't really have anything against Nakadai as an actor.

I was wondering if it was the way Nakadai played this particular role, for you, rather than the character as written? Some of the best villains are attractive, even charming, but as cocoskyavitch said Nakadai is repellent despite his glamour and good looks. Does he lack something, perhaps, that a great villain portrayal needs? He does a good job of making us dislike him, but should he have added a little more charm into the mix? What do you make, I wonder, of his potrayal of the villain in Sanjuro?

Or the Freudian explanation might be best after all. Too much pistol waving and slithering about with his arms folded inside his gown?

I have the BFI Yojimbo and it's interesting that the inlay has three screen shots of Nakadai and only one of Mifune.

Vili, you are really making me laugh, your honesty is so refreshing. The confessional tone is a gift! It is so awesome that you are sorting things through in real time in this forum. We can tell you are super-smart and sharp as a tack.

I dare say that having conflicted feelings about something or a character in a film is a good part of my enjoyment of a film of any complexity. Learning to articulate understanding...is something this forum allows us to do, and that's really cool. I feel as if I am learning a lot about how others see things that are very meaningful to me. Seeing things through another's mind and heart is really interesting.

And, Nakadai is creepy and snaky and there is something just short of obscene about his exposed shoulder-arm-gun and sinuous leg. Gun/sex/compensatory mechanism...blah blah blah, but it's there. Also, I guess the gun is the poison tooth of the snake. Equating sex with death is not a big Kurosawa motif. Mifune, offered the dancing girls to "play" with looks like a contemporary guy offered a choice of STDs. Very funny reaction when they first appear.

It must be a very Western thing to see snakes as creepy and get a whole rush of iconography with "original sin" and all that-Naga in India-the protector of Buddha-Mifune was Christian, right? Hey, remember Shimura in Scandaldrunkenly yelling "Merry Chritmas Every Butty!" And Mifune with the Christmas tree on his motorcycle? So crazy.

Sorry for the stream-of-consciousness ramble. You're right, though, Nakadai is creepy. Mr. Hopper's got it...Nakadai is short of sympathetic. I don't like him, either, but I enjoy watching him.

Some folks love to compare Yojimbo and its remakes. Here's a site that is clever (and non-didactic) about this, courtesy of the BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A1132291

Jon Hooper: I was wondering if it was the way Nakadai played this particular role, for you, rather than the character as written? Some of the best villains are attractive, even charming, but as cocoskyavitch said Nakadai is repellent despite his glamour and good looks. Does he lack something, perhaps, that a great villain portrayal needs? He does a good job of making us dislike him, but should he have added a little more charm into the mix? What do you make, I wonder, of his potrayal of the villain in Sanjuro?

I actually really like him in Sanjuro. Maybe it is that there, I can figure him out as he is a more typical character, and think of him existing also outside of the scenes that he is in. In Yojimbo, meanwhile, he seems too strange and too out-of-place. And since we are given absolutely no background to his story, he just ends up being very unattached to the whole story.

In a way, he is the only character in the whole movie who is not a caricature (and this more or less includes Sanjuro as well). Yet, he is not a so-called "round" character, either, since we know nothing of him. Somehow he therefore ends up not really being a character at all, but simply an obstacle, a plot device. An oddity.

Or, alternatively/additionally it might even be something as simple as his clothing. Those stripes actually make me dizzy. I can't focus on them, and they actually create a very strange visual effect. It might, of course, be just my eyes and my TV. Nevertheless, a curious choice from the clothing department (or whatever you call them).

cocoskyavitch: Mifune, offered the dancing girls to "play" with looks like a contemporary guy offered a choice of STDs.

I actually think that Mifune's response to the wife's offer of the girls -- "It's dangerous around here" -- is indeed a direct suggestion of this.

And is it just me or has Kurosawa here got the make-up department to work really hard to make all of these girls strangely unattractive, although not downright ugly?

Nakadai,plays a active confident character which can be a bit odd, when Mifune plays a passive confidence. The biggest issue is the lack of time we spend with Unosuke. We dont see him much, but every time he is has a brighter showing.
Unosuke walks around like he has a spot light on him, but since his character doesnt get develop it becomes annoying. It would be like in a play having the main stage light, be on a tree. Our focus is giving into something that doesnt need focus.We are trying to find why this spotlight is shining on this object, but we can never understand.

Unosuke is a unknown to Sanjuro, the one thing he cant figure out. Unosuke represents doubt and unsureness to Sanjuro, something he is not used to. Unosuke can not be shaken, and when Sanjuro trys to understand him, he can not, as there is nothing to understand.
Unosuke is completely legitimized by his gun, he is nothing more, as he even mentions upon his death.

None of this makes sense I'm sure, I just write.

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Yes, the girls are not attractive, but if you getting slammed by Inokichi every night, you too wouldnt look your best.

Beauty and the Beasts:

One of the dancing girls is pretty...the one putting her finger to her chin and giving us (camera) a sidelong glance. The rest are shockingly unattractive-particularly the musicians. But, I LOVE the music, the way it starts out and the drums come in and sure enough we see the musician drumming, (she always makes me laugh-her look is both focussed on her druming and dull at the same time-so much in that one look!) and their little dance... bare feet stomping around the too-small room.

And, since we're discussing attractiveness, I would like to just mention that Mifune's physical attributes for this viewer reach an apogee when he faces off against Nakadai in the final battle/massacre. Iconic confidence, sultry walk (dude! He's catlike in his movements! A lion, indeed.). The excitement of the slow, rolling-hip walk that explodes into movement.

I first saw Mifune some years ago in the Musashi Miyamoto trilogy-(at least, that's how I remember first seeing him, that may be wrong) and, confronted with his wildness in the first film, couldn't decide if he was a loud and annoying monkey or hot. I've ricocheted back and forth with that over the years, finally committing to ultimate hotness. It's kinda like a marriage. You decide to love, in the end. Not just emotion, a commitment.

But even the most devoted wife will tell you her husband's flaws if you get a couple of margaritas in her. I think Mifune's face changes dramatically even in Yojimbo-there is a look he gives of utter bewilderment when the freed mother, father and child bow to him-it only lasts a second, but Mifune looks twenty years older, heavier, and uncertain. There are moments, too, when I think, "what did he drink last night?" when his face is somewhat bloated. There are also times when he is so incredibly confident and masculine, that he's like a ridiculous ultimate hearthrob.

In Yojimbo, I love him first when I see his back and the mountain beyond. It's very intimate, coming up behind him like that. While I am enjoying his character, I'm also aware of the buckram-cap topnot wig he is wearing (there are some funny photos of actors walking around with these hairy half-coconuts in their hands-I can only imaginehow uncomfortable they were to wear and hot) and that he liked to get drunk and drive his MG around at night (Teruyo Nogami tells us so, and there are pics of Mifune dressed as Sanjuro taking a drive around the set-I use one as a screensaver on my computer screen-I love the anachronistic beauty of that image). So the layers of pleasure are like transparent tissues. There is also that sense of passing time-after all, this is all so long ago! So a mono-no-aware like feeling infuses one's awareness-another tissue layer through which you feel beauty and pleasure.

Jeremy: Unosuke walks around like he has a spot light on him, but since his character doesnt get develop it becomes annoying. It would be like in a play having the main stage light, be on a tree. Our focus is giving into something that doesnt need focus.We are trying to find why this spotlight is shining on this object, but we can never understand.

Jeremy, I think you may well have hit the nail on the head here. He is, indeed, under a spotlight, yet we are never quite sure why. Or well, at least I'm not. Thanks for this piece of enlightenment!

Coco: And, since we're discussing attractiveness, I would like to just mention that Mifune's physical attributes for this viewer reach an apogee when he faces off against Nakadai in the final battle/massacre.

My girlfriend actually just translated and dubbed Yojimbo about a month ago (she works for a small art film club as I may have mentioned), and she said that while dubbing the film she sometimes had problems concentrating on the dialogue as she found herself staring at Mifune.

I didn't go to the showing (I usually do when they have Kurosawa, just to see how many people turn up and what the reactions are), but apparently only a handful of people showed up. Such a shame, really. I've been trying to get the film club to show some early Kurosawa (in addition to Stray Dog and Rashomon) but the owner tells me that Kurosawa doesn't really bring in the crowds any more, and he needs to make a living after all. This is actually a bit strange as I remember that only seven or eight years ago the Kurosawa screenings still brought in quite a crowd.

But let's see what happens in 2010. Maybe I'll talk the owner into booking time for a Kurosawa marathon and will host that myself, who knows. If it happens, you are all invited to be the "expert panel".

Vili, since you've mentioned your home life, is your girlfriend Japanese? If so, your antiquarian sensibility in film must be kinda quirky to her, no? DVD Town's review of High and Lowsums up the uncoolness of Kurosawa. He's too popular. You have to like Ozu to be cool, or better yet-Kobayashi or Mizoguchi or Naruse. Hey, don't you cringe when people tell you their favorite Kurosawa film is "Dreams"? You think, "They haven't seen much"... And, don't you wonder, when people first tell you they like Kurosawa, if they just like samurai films in general? Then, finally, don't you think it is interesting that you are only going to be able to like that which is a commodity available for purchase/consumption? Sorry to be sour.

But, I think she and I have the same taste in men on film. I don't think you can overestimate the incredible appeal of Mifune in calculating Kurosawa's success. To tell the truth, it is kinda heartbreaking to think about it-that, after Red Beardboth Mifune and Kurosawa have some tough going.

To jump into the conversation if you dont mind.

Kurosawa too popular to be cool, is typical film snobbery. To be a "real" film fan, you have to only like the unknowns, is stupid notion. Simply people dont want other people to like what they like, because it reduces their ego, of knowing something no one else does.
I think I mention this elsewhere, where I sort of hate, knowing other people know about Kurosawa as much as me. To save me though, I can admit this and not let if effect my enjoyment of something that is more mainstream.
I know the unknowns, and although many are great, they may be unknown simply because they are not all that great. Certainly there are some horrible people that are well known, but one shouldn't group every well known, as a overrated.

I do admit, I absolutely hate when someone says they are a fan of Kurosawa, and can only mention a samurai film, mostly Sanjuro.
I want to punch them.
Ha-maybe his is too popular, I would prefer if some random person couldn't name him, would make me feel smarter.
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I can barely read the subtitles when Mifune is on screen, much less try to comprehend and translate.
I'll admit-I'm in love with Mifune. Bless his zombie bones.

My better half is actually Hungarian -- I live where I do mainly because of her.

I don't actually think that I want to punch anyone for liking Kurosawa's samurai films and being totally oblivious to anything else he directed. Neither do I have anything particular against those who consider Dreams his best film.

The former group of people goes on to show something that I personally really appreciate about Kurosawa, the fact that his films are nearly always entertainment first and socio-philosophical enquiries second (while also being technically brilliant). As he so often insisted, a good film must be entertaining or it will not be of interest to anyone -- there are other mediums that work better for pure intellectual contemplation.

As for the second group of people, I think Dreams is an excellent, thought-provoking film, so I don't see the problem there. There was actually a time when I considered it my favourite.

But Kurosawa is, indeed, in some ways "too popular" for many educated film lovers. I think that this is partly because of the role his works played during the early development of film studies as an academic subject in the west. This is partly thanks to Richie, and partly because of Kurosawa's accessibility due to his use of western techniques and film grammar. Because of this early interest, there is perhaps now a notion that he has already been studied, and that there is very little new to say about him. Which, as we have already discovered in the past couple of months, is of course utter nonsense.

The fact that Kurosawa's films can be so entertaining probably also works as a barrier to those looking for serious cinema. Yet, unlike what for example many fans of Japanese new wave cinema (many of whom are quite critical of Kurosawa) would like you to believe, Kurosawa's works -- and especially the immediate post-war films -- are quite intimately tied to the social, political and economical situation in contemporary (post-war) Japan, therefore introducing another possible barrier for someone wanting to study his movies -- you need to know something about the time those films were made to begin to see more than just the entertainment.

So, don't punch the "casual fans" or those who don't appreciate Kurosawa, instead tell them to head to akirakurosawa.info! We'll sort them out.